So listening to understand in practice is is active listening. It's making time to truly listen to people and ensure that you are not having distractions, that you are providing a space for people where you are not talking. So for me it's less talking, more listening. Listening is a skill that you develop. It's I I don't think it's something we're necessarily even taught as kids.
Jacinta Re:So we're taught to read and write. We're not really taught to to really actively listen, and that is something that through professions like social work psychology counselling, we spend years training in and honing in on on how to listen. So it is something you've got to develop that doesn't always come naturally.